Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

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FirstLook
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Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

Post by FirstLook » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:20 am

I am a new Newbe and have found I love sdr. Is there a good general purpose antenna that will cover all bands?

Kenn
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Re: Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

Post by Kenn » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:21 am

A discone in the attic or on the roof is a good choice. I also made a 12-element Coaxial Collinear for ADS-B (1090MHz) that also happens to work remarkably well across VHF & UHF.

-Kenn

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Re: Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

Post by rtlsdrblog » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:50 pm

There's no magic antenna that can break the laws of physics and cover all bands with the same performance. Antennas are tuned to a specific frequency. However, the closest thing to an all band antenna is a discone. Though with a wideband antenna like a discone the gain is lower, and it is easier to overload the SDR with out of band strong signals.

In practice most omnidirectional antennas will receive something when used out of their design frequency.

Davew_nz
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Re: Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

Post by Davew_nz » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:10 pm

Hi there

You could look at the ARA2000 model that Matthias Bopp has documented,
https://apollo.open-resource.org/missio ... na-for-sdr

I have not tried one of these myself yet but they look to be compact and simple to make so I may put one together.

Additional write up can be found here;
https://blog.brichacek.net/klon-sirokop ... -ara-2000/

Regards
Dave

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Re: Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA

Post by on1bes » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:51 pm

I recomment a vertical PA0FBK antenna, costs almost nothing. See my website on1bes project pages.

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Re: Is there a good general purpose ANTENNA => NO!

Post by snn47 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:38 pm

NO! You can't beat physics since the receiver are much to wideband for a single passive antenna, if you want to receive also below 30 MHz than it's even more complicated.

Most antennas are very frequency selective (at best a few percent of the frequency)

Passive antennas are broader, but at best 1 to 2 octave (passive: Discone or directive log. periodic or similar designs)

Active antennas: are basically just short (to the wavelength) capacity connected to a preamp and can therefore cover a few decades.


Then there is antenna gain needed to receive the signal, which will depend on
- the polarization of the transmitted waves,
- the antenna pattern in azimuth and elevation to consider because
- frequencies below 30 MHz can be Radio Line of sight, ground or through ionospheric reflections,
- while >30 MHz it_s mainly Radio Line of sight
-propagation loss

Therefore no single antenna can fit all.


The broader an antenna is the more strong signal source will be fed to the receiver, resulting in degradation of receiver performance, unless you have filters/attenuaters to protect/relieve the receiver to allow it to function.

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