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RTL-SDR Blog V4 now in stock at Amazon USA

Just a quick note for those waiting to confirm that the RTL-SDR Blog V4 is now in stock at Amazon USA. We have linked both the dongle + antenna set, and dongle only listings below. For customers outside of the USA please check our international purchasing links at www.rtl-sdr.com/store.

With the demand being high, if you were waiting please order soon as the next shipment most likely won't be in until January. To learn more about the RTL-SDR Blog V4, please see our product release post.

The RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle
The RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle

RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle + Antenna Set Back in Stock

This is just a quick post to let people who have been waiting know that the RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle with Multipurpose Dipole Antenna set is back in stock in our international store which ships from China.

Amazon stocking has been slightly delayed, but the ship with the stock should be on the way soon, and we expect it to be stocked within about four weeks. 

The V4 dongle can be ordered from our store at www.rtl-sdr.com/store.

Also see our release post and V4 users guide pages for more information about the RTL-SDR Blog V4.

Please remember that not all software is compatible with the RTL-SDR Blog V4 yet. The majority of programs on Windows and Linux are already compatible, or just require a simple driver swap, but some programs on MacOS will need more time to update because on these platforms the drivers are bundled with software. Android has recently seen the SDR Driver app updated to support the majority of Android apps.

Please consult the V4 users guide for the latest information about software compatibility and how to update the drivers.

Chris Reviews the RTL-SDR Blog V4 on the HF Bands

Thank you to Chris (NNN0BOC) for writing up a glowing review of the RTL-SDR Blog V4. In the review Chris covers the enhancements that the VB4 brings to the HF bands, the driver replacement, and tests it out on various signals such as STANAG S4285, HF FAX, HFDL, GMDSS, MilSpec 141A ALE and various SWL bands. In his tests he uses SDR-Console V3, of which there is now a beta version that has built in support for the RTL-SDR Blog V4 (scroll down the page to find the V3.3 beta download).

Chris makes note that the RTL-SDR Blog V4 does not have the Nyquist aliasing problem that occurs in the RTL-SDR Blog V3 and other RTL-SDRs that enable HF reception through direct sampling. Nyquist aliasing on the RTL-SDR means that signals will be folded around 14.4 MHz. So for example a real signal at 8 MHz would also show up on 14.4 + (14.8 - 8) = 20.8 MHz and vice versa. The lack of Nyquist aliasing makes for a much cleaner spectrum.

Chris summarizes with the following:

I must admit I spent _a lot_ of time just looking at the beauty of HF with the V4, watching all the crazy goings-on, the weird sweepers and random signals popping up and disapearing.

I didn't run into any dynamic range issues or stability issues stemming from the V4, I wondered if I would have to perhaps place the RTL SDR AMBC Filter in line to suppress the many AMBC signals always present, never had a prob. The 120+ foot horizontal loop antenna feeding the V4 only has a 30MHz lowpass filter in line to hinder any rf that impinges upon it.

For such an inexpensive and tiny device, and free-to-use software, the capabilities are really kinda amazing. I now want an RTL SDR embedded into a cheap phone to use as a spectrum display on non-sdr HF receivers!

The V4 seems to atone for some of the sins of the V3, especially on HF with specific regard to Nyquist aliasing, have no fear tuning above 14.4MHz dear friends, this thing won't be making aliases unless you are overloading it.

At this time I can't think of a better value for the money when shopping for an SDR to use with a pc or phone in the sub - $50 price range.

We note that the RTL-SDR Blog V4 dongle only is currently in stock on our store from our international shipping warehouse, and the V4 dongle + antenna set will be in stock in about a weeks time.

RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle Back in Stock!

The RTL-SDR Blog V4 dongle (dongle only), is back in stock for international shipping today! The V4 Dongle + Antenna set will be back in stock after about a week. Please note that shipping will be a few days delayed due to a multi-day public holiday in China this week. Amazon will be stocked with V4 dongles in about five weeks time.

The V4 dongle can be ordered from our store at www.rtl-sdr.com/store.

Also see our release post and V4 users guide pages for more information about the RTL-SDR Blog V4.

Please remember that not all software is compatible with the RTL-SDR Blog V4 yet. The majority of programs on Windows and Linux are already compatible, or just require a simple driver swap, but some programs on MacOS and Android will need more time to update because on these platforms the drivers are bundled with software.

Please consult the V4 users guide for the latest information about software compatibility and how to update the drivers.

We note that there have been some false rumors on various forums that the RTL-SDR Blog V4 is totally out of stock already as it is a limited edition product. We want everyone to know that that while it is a limited edition product, there should be enough stock for about a year.

Manuel Compares the RTL-SDR Blog V3 vs RTL-SDR Blog V4

Not too long ago we released our first batch of RTL-SDR Blog V4 dongles, and most have been received by customers now. The next batch is coming soon, and we should be able to start sales again within the next 1-2 weeks from this post. It is incorrect rumors that they are totally sold out forever already. There should be sufficient stock for at least a year, so everyone who wants one will can get one.

In his latest YouTube video Manuel Lausmann compares the performance of the RTL-SDR Blog V3 and the RTL-SDR Blog V4. The video is narrated in German, however YouTube's autotranslate + captions feature works well.

In the video he first compares the performance on HF, noting that there are significantly less interference signals in the HF spectrum due to the lack of Nyquist folding around 14.4 MHz, which is a known problem with the direct sampling mode. He later also compares performance in the VHF and UHF bands, notably finding an improvement in the 145 MHz region where the V3 has a pumping noise floor from out of band interference, whereas the V4 does not thanks to it's additional filtering.


TechMinds: Testing the RTL-SDR Blog V4

Over on his TechMinds YouTube channel Matt has uploaded a new video showing him testing out the new RTL-SDR Blog V4 dongle that we released a couple of weeks ago. In the video Matt explains the differences between the RTL-SDR Blog V3 and V4 dongles, and then goes on to show the Blog V4 dongle in action. He finishes by comparing reception between the V3 and V4, noting the reduced interference on the HF bands due to the lack of Nyquist folding from direct sampling.

We note that the first batch of the RTL-SDR Blog has currently sold out, but a new larger batch will be ready to go on sale around the end of September. So please keep an eye on the blog's main page and store if you are interested in picking one up.

RTL SDR V4 - Now with Built-In HF Upconverter + More Features

RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle Initial Release!

NOTE: The V4 is now out of stock but will return in late September. There will be stock for about a year of sales. It is not completely gone yet as per false rumors!

We're happy to announce the first release of our new RTL-SDR Blog V4 dongle which is based on the R828D tuner chip. The pricing is US$39.95 for the V4 dongle with antenna set, and US$29.95 for the dongle only, including free shipping to most countries.

Currently we are only shipping this model from our warehouse in China and the initial production batch is small and so we are limited in stock. However, now that we have confirmed that production of the first small batch of V4 has gone very well, we will be ramping up production, and stocking Amazon USA within 1-2 months as well.

The units are available for purchase on our store page.

The V4 comes with several improvements and changes that are listed below.

  • Improved HF Reception. Now uses a built in upconverter instead of using a direct sampling circuit. This means no more Nyquist folding of signals around 14.4 MHz, improved sensitivity, and adjustable gain on HF. Like the V3, the lower tuning range remains at 500 kHz and very strong reception may still require front end attenuation/filtering.
  • Improved filtering. The V4 makes use of the R828D tuner chip, which has three inputs. We triplex the SMA input into three bands, HF, VHF and UHF. This provides some isolation between the three bands, meaning out of band interference from strong broadcast stations is less likely to cause desensitization or imaging.
  • Improved Filtering x2. In addition to the triplexing, we are also making use of the open drain pin on the R828D, which allows us to add simple notch filters for common interference bands such as broadcast AM, broadcast FM and the DAB bands. These only attenuate by a few dB, but may still help.
  • Improved phase noise on strong signals. Due to an improved power supply design, phase noise from power supply noise has been significantly reduced.
  • Less heat. Due to the improved power supply design the V4 uses slightly less current and generates slightly less heat compared to the V3.
  • Cheaper price! The price of the R860 chip which is used in the V3 and most other RTL-SDR brands increased significantly at the beginning of 2023 which is part of the reason as to why RTL-SDR dongles have been increasing in price recently. For the V4 we are making use of an existing stockpile of R828D chips which are now priced cheaper than new productions of the R860. In a time when high inflation keeps pushing prices up this is incredibly welcome.

There are some other minor changes including a new bias tee LED and a small cutout hole in the enclosure so it's easy to tell when the bias tee is on.

Of course the same innovations that we brought in with the V3 are still implemented such as the sleek conductive black metal enclosure which works as a shield and doubles as a heatsink, a thermal pad to sink heat away from the PCB, 1PPM TCXO, SMA connector, USB noise choking and improved ESD protection.

The V4 however does come with some disadvantages compared to the V3 that need to be noted:

  • Due to the increased filtering there can be an average of 2-3 dB less sensitivity on some bands. Please see the MDS measurement graph below for the full picture.
  • The V4 requires the use of our RTL-SDR Blog drivers. Our RTL-SDR blog drivers are on GitHub. Please be sure to follow the installation instructions on the quickstart guide carefully as the V4 will not work with default Osmocom drivers. In most cases using our drivers simply means running our install-rtlsdr-blog.bat file, or replacing a dll file. (We are working to upstream the main changes to the Osmocom repo too). MacOS and Android users please note that we don't have a solution for you yet, but we are working on it.
  • The V4 is a Limited Edition Design. The R828D tuner chip is completely out of production now and the number of units we can produce is limited by the number of chips held by our contract manufacturer in China. They have indicated that there should be enough stockpile for about a years worth of production.

Because of these tradeoffs we will continue selling the V3 alongside the V4.

More About the V4 Design

The R828D

The core change on the RTL-SDR Blog V4 design is the change from the R860 tuner chip to the R828D tuner chip. The R828D was previously a more expensive chip, however with the huge price increases on the R860 which came in effect at the beginning of the year we have decided to make use of existing R828D stock which is now cheaper than the R860.

The R828D is very similar to the R820/R860 and shares much of the same circuitry. However, instead of just one input, it comes with three switchable inputs. We have used these three inputs together with a triplexer to create a dongle with some extra input filtering. In the past there have been some R828D based dongles on the market, but all designs are based on TV receiver circuits. Because our design is different, you will need to use our RTL-SDR Blog driver branch which has added compatibility for our R828D design.

Also please note that because the R828D chip stock is limited, and it is no longer in production, the V4 design is also a limited design which we expect to be able to sell for about a year.

HF Design

The HF design consists of a SA612 double-balanced mixer circuit with front end filtering, which is connected to the 28.8 MHz oscillator that is also used for the tuner and RTL2832U chip. This means that HF frequencies are upconverted by 28.8 MHz. Our drivers handle this upconversion seamlessly, so you just need to tune to 0 - 28.8 MHz in order to receive HF. There is no need to set any offset.

An upconverter design also means that unlike direct sampling full gain control is available, and also there is no folding of signals across 14.4 MHz due to Nyquist.

Adding Basic Input Filtering

One of the main problems with RTL-SDR dongles is overload from strong broadcast stations such as broadcast FM, broadcast AM and DAB. By using a triplexer circuit we can make use of the three inputs on the R828D tuner chip to provide some filtering. The triplexer splits the input signal into HF (0 - 28 MHz), VHF (28 MHz - 250 MHz), and UHF+ (250 MHz - 1.766 GHz). This means that interference from something like strong broadcast FM at 88-108 MHz is more isolated when we are tuned to the HF and UHF bands.

We've also made use of the open drain pin on the R828D (which does not exist on the R860) to implement a simple switchable notch filter for the main problem broadcast bands. These notch filters cover broadcast AM, broadcast FM and DAB, and reduce them about an additional 5-10 dB. By default the notch turns ON when tuned out of these bands, and is turned OFF when tuned within them.

In terms of sensitivity, the disadvantage of adding more filtering is that it can reduce sensitivity in some bands. However, sensitivity of the RTL-SDR is usually not a problem in most situations, as we're usually limited by desensitization from strong out of band signals as mentioned above. If sensitivity is a priority an LNA such as our wideband LNA should be used anyway, for any RTL-SDR brand or model. Any front end LNA will totally dominate the sensitivity figures, making any sensitivity measurements of the RTL-SDR itself irrelevant.

Revised Power Design

The revised power design makes use of a more modern LDO with significantly better power supply noise rejection which results in much lower phase noise seen on strong narrow signals. There are also some PCB tweaks to reduce internally produced noise. The LDO improvement also has the effect of reducing power usage and lowering heat.

Other Changes

We've also added an LED to the bias tee, so it's easier to tell if it has been activated in software.

MDS Measurements

The minimum discernable signal (MDS) is a test we can do to determine what is the minimum power level that a receiver can detect.

The results show that the MDS has significantly improved on the HF bands thanks to the upconverter design. However, there is some minor degradation in the VHF and UHF band.

MDS Measurements (Low values are better)
MDS Measurements (Low values are better)
MDS Comparison (Higher means better sensitivity for the V4)

Two Tone Isolation & Desensitization Test

Strong out of band signals can cause an SDR to desensitize on other bands. For example, very strong broadcast FM (which is common), can cause signals being received on other frequencies to be received with a lower signal to noise ratio.

In this test we injected an "interference" tone (Tone A) at 95 MHz, and injected a second tone (Tone B) at another frequency. We then slowly increased the power on Tone A. When we noticed a 3 dB drop in the signal strength of Tone B we recorded the power level of Tone A that this occurred at.

This gives us a way to see the effect of the triplexer filters and notch filters when compared against the Blog V3 which has no filtering. A higher recorded value means that a stronger signal is required to desensitize the receiver, meaning that the strong signal handling capability is improved.

From the difference graph we can see that isolation results within the same triplexer band are improved by about 8 dB thanks to the notch, and then out of band isolation is improved by 28 - 43 dB thanks to a combination of the triplexer filters and notch.

We note that between 305 - 1405 our measurements were limited by the max power out from our signal generator, and we believe the true results are roughly 5dB better than what was recorded at these frequencies.

Two Tone Sensitivity Drop Test
Two Tone Sensitivity Drop Test
Isolation Improvement in the RTL-SDR Blog V4
Isolation Improvement in the RTL-SDR Blog V4

Should I upgrade if I have an RTL-SDR Blog V3?

If you are happy with the RTL-SDR Blog V3's performance, then there is absolutely no need to upgrade as you will likely see similar performance. However, if you are purchasing a new dongle it may be wise to consider the V4 model as we believe the V4 will be a receiver that is more suitable in many situations.


We wanted to extend some thanks to Erlend S. Ervik/LB6MI, Jack T. and everyone over the years who has given some input to RTL-SDR design.